- Who you'll talk to, if theyâre okay with that
- What you propose as a next step
- What you'll do next
- When they can expect to hear from you
Want to read: The Utopia of Rules by David Graeber đ
It’s time to revisit this one in light of the past couple of months and my shifting conception of what it meant to rest and play.
Some Notes on How to Listen to People
Last year I was asked to put down some thoughts about how to have an active listening practice as a manager or leader. This has been knocking around as a Google Doc for a while because after the talk I meant to get back to it as a bigger project. Until I can get my thoughts in order on that, I'm going to just put this on the public web.
People deserve to know their choices. Focus on that instead of fixing things.Â
Nobody likes it when people who do good work leave, and some people donât even like it when people who do mediocre work leave. During a time when thereâs a lot of focus on attrition or concern about morale, people will sometimes soft-pedal bad news, avoid making hard decisions, or try to defer unpleasant or hard conversations to keep everybody happy.
When you do that, though, youâre just kicking the can down the road and possibly withholding what people who are genuinely unhappy need to get âescape velocity,â make a decision, and move on.
Donât withhold in the hopes theyâll just calm down for a while. If theyâre faced with a situation that simply isnât going to change, they should know that, whether itâs âthatâs not how we work here anymore,â or âweâve made that decision and arenât revisiting it.â
Anything less is just allowing them to stay in a state where they think something will change that wonât, and itâs keeping them from making a better decision than âhang around until the thing I hate goes away.â
You're having these conversations because there are strains in relationships, and you should be working to make those relationships whole again
People will always need someone to talk to, but the list of people youâre talking to at any given moment will change.
Ideally, youâre giving them someone to talk to, and encouraging them to take their problems to the person best equipped to solve them as theyâre able to get enough perspective to do so. You engage in constrained and discrete action or intervention as a last resort.
In other words, the interactions youâre having with any given person arenât the desired end-state: Itâs an interim situation.
Some rules
You have to sit and listen
It's tempting to come to think of yourself as a fixer, whether it's of a broken manager/report relationship, a system or process, or even just someone's faulty perspective.
When someone first agrees to sit down with you and tell you what's going on, though, the thing they've asked you to do in that moment is listen. They might ultimately want you to fix something, and the hope that you'll fix something is probably part of why they're sitting there talking to you, but in that moment the thing they want you to do is listen. Their problem probably feels unique to them, in the particulars if not as a general kind of problem. Something about it feels like it's outside their experience or ability to handle, or they're simply not sure what their expectations should be.
Just listening can be pretty hard. You might have some idea of what their problem is before they even begin to speak. You might be able to see where they're going before they get very far in to what they have to say. Itâs important to let them talk it out: They need to talk through their feelings and theyâve asked you to help them do that. Sometimes theyâll even talk themselves into a solution or end up better understanding what they want to ask for.
You don't always have an answer, and you need to admit to that
Sometimes you donât know. Itâs okay to say you donât know and need to go learn more.
You have to learn how to find the balance between acknowledging their feelings and being part of a management team
Sometimes, youâll believe another manager made a mistake in their handling of a situation. The times thatâs obvious and clear-cut are pretty few. More often, there are a bunch of perspectives on the problem. In some ways, it just doesnât matter: Your primary function in the moment someone has brought a problem to you is to listen. (If theyâre reporting unsafe behavior or a violation of policy, you definitely need to escalate.)
Itâs still possible to show empathy and kindness without making comment on a colleagueâs decisions:
âHow did you feel when they said that?â
âHow do you feel now?â
âI understand that didnât feel great. Looking at it from your perspective, Iâm not sure Iâd like that either.â
You can't ambush your colleagues with the things you learn
To most good managers, having a good understanding of the dynamics on their team and the state of the people on the team is essential to their professional self-respect. When it turns out theyâve missed a situation, or the fact that one of their folks is having problems, it can be embarrassing.
One way to make sure people are in a good place to take in what youâve learned about a situation on their team is to share it with them discreetly, not around a meeting table where theyâre hearing about a problem at the same time as everybody else. If you use information you have about their team dynamics or one of their employees to show them up or contradict them, all youâre doing is creating resistance to finding a solution.
You're listening to everybody, but you have a network and need to acknowledge that
Even if youâre touching base with a lot of people, you probably have a few people you talk to most. Theyâve got a particular perspective and while they may be pretty key and influential people, itâs still just their perspective youâre hearing.
When asked âwhatâs going on on the floor,â acknowledge that: âThe folks Iâm closest to are saying this but Iâve also heard that.â
A Workflow
When someone needs to talk, there are a few things you have to do:
Listen
Just listen. Try not to say much outside the usual âactive listeningâ stuff:
âWhat did you do next?â
âWhat went through your head when you heard that?â
Stay off your phone and stay out of your laptop, or set an expectation (e.g. âmy son needs to call me from school this afternoon so Iâll have to pick up my phone when I get a notification.â)
Play it back
Once theyâve told their story, playing it back to them in a few sentences shows them you were listening and helps ensure that youâve actually spotted the issue. You may have missed it, especially if you went into the interaction thinking you already knew what the problem was.
Just play it all back in a few sentences, and make sure you got it all:
âWhat I heard was a, b, and c. Did I miss something in there?â
Keep your own emotion out of it
Sometimes people bring some stuff thatâs frustrating to hear. A lot of strong emotion from an authority figure can put people on high alert, or cause them to shut down. Theyâre often afraid theyâre going to trigger some sort of reaction out of proportion to what they were hoping for. Itâs not wrong to show empathy, or say âI can see how that would be upsetting,â (or frustrating, frightening, etc.) but donât take on their emotions (thatâs bad for you) and donât make a big display of your own anger or frustration (theyâre there for help, not to watch you process your own emotion).
Let them know what they can expect
Our open door guides tell managers that they have a few obligations to people who escalate an issue to them. I generally relate the important ones or encourage the employee to review them so they can have an idea of how Iâll behave.
I always make clear their story stays with me unless thereâs a policy, legal, or safety issue. Some managers donât like that, but itâs one way to insulate the person doing the listening from being turned into a back channel: If the employee was hoping for that back channel, they know they wonât get it.
Call it out when what they saw was wrong or unusual
Sometimes, youâll learn of things that are plainly unprofessional or inappropriate. Itâs not wrong to offer an opinion. Just make clear that itâs your opinion.
I once dealt with an employee whose manager a. claimed that there were secret criteria for being promoted that he couldnât tell her and she hadnât met; and b. told her teammates she wasnât mature enough for promotion.
I called those things out as a. untrue and b. inappropriate. I made clear that she had an expectation of confidentiality around performance conversations, and that the behavior wasnât normal for managers at Puppet.
Ask for permission to raise the issue with people who can fix it
Our open door guides make clear that this is a core expectation on managers. Again, we donât want to be used as back channels for manipulation, and it also reassures people there asking for help with problems they canât resolve that they wonât get someone in trouble or âcall down the thunderâ when they arenât even sure thereâs really a problem.
Set expectations
Tell them:
Follow up right away
Let them know once you know something useful, whether thatâs âthis is fixed,â or âI canât do much more here, but hereâs who probably could âŚâ